Conversation with The Liminalist (#54)
First of a two-part conversation with David Costanza of Art of Flying, (& Jasun Horsley of the Liminalist), on cosmic clowns, baking and art-packing, pondering the mystery of art, the beginnings of Art of Flying, the parallels with Big Blood, keeping a low profile, creating music outside the industry, avoiding the label-BS, music & community, Free Music Archive, how the world doesn’t take artists seriously, corporate mentality, divorcing art from commerce, the longest loan you’ll ever get, gauging one’s place in the culture of celebrity, an invisible audience, what gives satisfaction, music for the spirit world, what happens when we die, the bid for immortality, clinging to incarnation, the real currency, wisdom as wealth, the lack of an echo, liminalism, using art as a drug, “Old Forgotten Spells,” ephemerality in music, sharing the unexpected, keeping chance involved, avoiding manipulation, art as observation and discovery, the ears of the soul, being a collective, the spirits within, a choral effect, unfiltered writing, the challenge of improvisation, the free jazz tradition, The Lords of Howling, style-free music, David’s inhibition, noticing the echo, a large circle of giving, three levels of validation, making your bed in heaven, a side room of culture, the decadent cultural layer, a dialogue with the soul, Jesus’ small crowds, the lament of mortality, putting fear of death in its place, how culture gets stuck, “Morning Star,” the lightbringer, how Lucifer felt, Catholic trauma, religion as a whip, the beginning of Art of Flying.
